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	<title>Comments on: When a cyclist is killed in Jane Pitfield&#8217;s ward, does it make a sound?</title>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://allderdice.ca/?p=155&#038;cpage=1#comment-52000</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Samantha,
Sorry not to have gotten back sooner. I am out of the habit of writing for my blog and so I don&#039;t check for comments that often anymore.

Anyway, I will post your comment, but I wanted to make a separate note to you because your message touched me and made me feel quite sad. I don&#039;t want you to think in anyway I was judging your father&#039;s cycling skills in my post--in any case I know next to nothing about what happened. I am a member of a Toronto group called Advocacy for Respect for Cyclists (ARC) and as I recall when we held the cyclist&#039;s memorial for your dad (as we do for every cyclist killed on the roads in Toronto) we did try to get in touch with the family, but not sure we were successful.

Like you I have had many close calls on bicycles, and know from first-hand experience that trucks are not safe things to be around on the roads. In fact one of the main things ARC has fought for (with little success, unfortunately) is for Transport Canada to mandate sideguards on trucks, which would prevent a cyclist (or a pedestrian) from being pulled under the wheels of a truck. Who knows, if the truck that killed your father had had a sideguard he might be alive today.

Anyway, Thanks for your comment and again, sorry for any misunderstanding or pain my writing may have caused.

Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Samantha,<br />
Sorry not to have gotten back sooner. I am out of the habit of writing for my blog and so I don&#8217;t check for comments that often anymore.</p>
<p>Anyway, I will post your comment, but I wanted to make a separate note to you because your message touched me and made me feel quite sad. I don&#8217;t want you to think in anyway I was judging your father&#8217;s cycling skills in my post&#8211;in any case I know next to nothing about what happened. I am a member of a Toronto group called Advocacy for Respect for Cyclists (ARC) and as I recall when we held the cyclist&#8217;s memorial for your dad (as we do for every cyclist killed on the roads in Toronto) we did try to get in touch with the family, but not sure we were successful.</p>
<p>Like you I have had many close calls on bicycles, and know from first-hand experience that trucks are not safe things to be around on the roads. In fact one of the main things ARC has fought for (with little success, unfortunately) is for Transport Canada to mandate sideguards on trucks, which would prevent a cyclist (or a pedestrian) from being pulled under the wheels of a truck. Who knows, if the truck that killed your father had had a sideguard he might be alive today.</p>
<p>Anyway, Thanks for your comment and again, sorry for any misunderstanding or pain my writing may have caused.</p>
<p>Jake</p>
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		<title>By: mysamantha</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was my dad. I appreciate your effort to bring the public news. But I do belive you should have asked me and my family first also another one of the bicyclists was my friends dad. They both had families and children and if you think for one second that they are the ones who caused they&#039;re own accidents then you have made a huge mistake! Truck drivers are not careful I have almost been hit or seen accidents with trucks. My dad was the most careful bicyclist in the world. And you want to know what hurts the most? Is to find out your own father is dead. To have no one there to be with him that he knew to help him get through the pain. They say time heals everything well that&#039;s not true. Time won&#039;t heal the loss of my dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was my dad. I appreciate your effort to bring the public news. But I do belive you should have asked me and my family first also another one of the bicyclists was my friends dad. They both had families and children and if you think for one second that they are the ones who caused they&#8217;re own accidents then you have made a huge mistake! Truck drivers are not careful I have almost been hit or seen accidents with trucks. My dad was the most careful bicyclist in the world. And you want to know what hurts the most? Is to find out your own father is dead. To have no one there to be with him that he knew to help him get through the pain. They say time heals everything well that&#8217;s not true. Time won&#8217;t heal the loss of my dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://allderdice.ca/?p=155&#038;cpage=1#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect they would say they have more important things to do than worry about bicycle riders and pedestrian issues.

However, it may be germaine that a google of &quot;Jane Pitfield&quot; gives you BikeToronto&#039;s rating of her among the first five hits. I suggest cyclists are among the most active of the city&#039;s constituents. 

A google of &quot;mayor david miller&quot; does not yield anything like the same results. I am not sure what this means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect they would say they have more important things to do than worry about bicycle riders and pedestrian issues.</p>
<p>However, it may be germaine that a google of &#8220;Jane Pitfield&#8221; gives you BikeToronto&#8217;s rating of her among the first five hits. I suggest cyclists are among the most active of the city&#8217;s constituents. </p>
<p>A google of &#8220;mayor david miller&#8221; does not yield anything like the same results. I am not sure what this means.</p>
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		<title>By: Spin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one, Mr. A.  Have either of these candidates for Mayor said anything coherent about road safety, particularly as it relates to vulnerable road users like bicyclists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one, Mr. A.  Have either of these candidates for Mayor said anything coherent about road safety, particularly as it relates to vulnerable road users like bicyclists?</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://allderdice.ca/?p=155&#038;cpage=1#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About a dozen of us braved the cold rainy night to ride into the deathtrap at Eglinton and Leslie. You can see images at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8778280&amp;postID=115863230511927291&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Martino&#039;s Bikelane Diary&lt;/a&gt; and at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.torontocranks.com/wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&amp;g2_itemId=4522&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Toronto Cranks&lt;/a&gt;.

A couple tv cameras showed up and spent a long time filming us as we waded into the curblane with our banner: &quot;A Cyclist was Killed here last week&quot; and our fluttering candles. Some of us turned on the news that night to see if we made the cut, but it does not appear that we did. 

The big news that night was not a gang of unruly mourners standing in the rain, but the two contenders for mayor, David Miller and Jane Pitfield, mugging for their own share of the spotlight in a debate held at the University of Toronto.

Did we mention this collision, the one that killed the cyclist on Eglinton at Leslie, took place in Jane Pitfield&#039;s ward? Did we mention the fact that a simple device guarding the space between the wheels on the truck would likely have spared the cyclist&#039;s life? Did we mention these guards have been mandated for years in Europe, and were specificlly recommended by the Toronto Coroner in a report issued nine years ago? 

Yeah, I know we did.

It was shitty, there in the rain at Eglinton and Leslie. But I would rather have been there than sitting cozy in the audience at the mayoral debate. I only wish I could figure out some way to put the issue on the agenda at the next one.

A friend drew up the appropriate scenario:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But if it were a movie, Jimmy Stewart, not M. Ghandi, would lead a peloton of citizen cyclists onto Queens Park Circle. He&#039;d shout, &quot;These are our roads and they aren&#039;t going to take them away from us this time!&quot;. The film&#039;s car wranglers would create automotive chaos in back of the bikes for the cameras as the cops scrambled in front to block their path. A solid cordon of police prevents forward movement then, and Jimmy Stewart cries, &quot;Everyone stick together now and put your bkes down and sit on the road! We haven&#039;t broken any laws, they&#039;ll have to haul us away!&quot;. His best girl pleads with her father the minister of transport and makes him recant his libertarian pro-business past and he immediately drafts a bill requiring sideguards on all rucks. He introduces it to the house, cut to the girl as she bails Jimmy and his mates out of jail and the now friendly cops shake hands with them as they leave.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a dozen of us braved the cold rainy night to ride into the deathtrap at Eglinton and Leslie. You can see images at <a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8778280&amp;postID=115863230511927291" rel="nofollow">Martino&#8217;s Bikelane Diary</a> and at <a href="http://www.torontocranks.com/wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&amp;g2_itemId=4522" rel="nofollow">Toronto Cranks</a>.</p>
<p>A couple tv cameras showed up and spent a long time filming us as we waded into the curblane with our banner: &#8220;A Cyclist was Killed here last week&#8221; and our fluttering candles. Some of us turned on the news that night to see if we made the cut, but it does not appear that we did. </p>
<p>The big news that night was not a gang of unruly mourners standing in the rain, but the two contenders for mayor, David Miller and Jane Pitfield, mugging for their own share of the spotlight in a debate held at the University of Toronto.</p>
<p>Did we mention this collision, the one that killed the cyclist on Eglinton at Leslie, took place in Jane Pitfield&#8217;s ward? Did we mention the fact that a simple device guarding the space between the wheels on the truck would likely have spared the cyclist&#8217;s life? Did we mention these guards have been mandated for years in Europe, and were specificlly recommended by the Toronto Coroner in a report issued nine years ago? </p>
<p>Yeah, I know we did.</p>
<p>It was shitty, there in the rain at Eglinton and Leslie. But I would rather have been there than sitting cozy in the audience at the mayoral debate. I only wish I could figure out some way to put the issue on the agenda at the next one.</p>
<p>A friend drew up the appropriate scenario:</p>
<blockquote><p>But if it were a movie, Jimmy Stewart, not M. Ghandi, would lead a peloton of citizen cyclists onto Queens Park Circle. He&#8217;d shout, &#8220;These are our roads and they aren&#8217;t going to take them away from us this time!&#8221;. The film&#8217;s car wranglers would create automotive chaos in back of the bikes for the cameras as the cops scrambled in front to block their path. A solid cordon of police prevents forward movement then, and Jimmy Stewart cries, &#8220;Everyone stick together now and put your bkes down and sit on the road! We haven&#8217;t broken any laws, they&#8217;ll have to haul us away!&#8221;. His best girl pleads with her father the minister of transport and makes him recant his libertarian pro-business past and he immediately drafts a bill requiring sideguards on all rucks. He introduces it to the house, cut to the girl as she bails Jimmy and his mates out of jail and the now friendly cops shake hands with them as they leave.</p></blockquote>
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